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I dont know if this will work but if you put the program on something like Kazaa, wouldn't people be able to download it without you knowing?
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When you download the program it is bound to you.

What that means is that it gets your mac address and send it back to ffxiscripting right when you sign on the ffxi.

Each program download has a unique Id that is created right when the program is downloaded.

If theres 1 ID with 50 mac address it will be obvious that someone shared the program.

To find out who I can release an update that looks for that macadress on all the machines it is installed on until it finds it, when it does it will send the info back to me with their ip address.


The I just check the logs on the website here to see whos ip address it is.

voila we get another banned bitch
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or we could just see a headline, Law school students body found in desert.
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Mac address? Sometimes I change mine in order to bypass WEP restrictions. But meh, I'm sure you'll know it's just me.
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wtf Your information on internet legal issues may be correct, I do not know so can not say, but your information on legal contracts, common law(US), and EULA's is innaccurate. The straw man example you used of "if you do not follow my rules you have to kill yourselves" is blatanlty exagerated and incorrect. Burners T&C do not give you any sort of proactive orders of action if something should happen. They, just like all legal contracts/agreements, set up an agreement of conditions including among them conditions by which certain actions will be taken by Burners, not you, and by agreeing to the T&C you have assented to these conditions/actions.
Secondly International trade or law are not applicable in US matters :mackdaddy: , technically even if you hit another country with something, excepting where 2 conditions are met.
1) There is a treaty or US government agreement
(such as for extradition) where by the US gives
authority for a foreign body to collect/ take action on an
agreed liability.
2) The US government must actually decide to hold you
actountable to that treaty/agreement.
Furthermore the author of a contract/agreement does not have any bearing on the legality of the contract in the slightest excepting if the person is mentally incompetent and the said agreement pertains to the author. A contract is legal in the US so long as it does not violate any existing US or state(specific to the state it was entered into in) law regardless of who authored it. You could break contract by certain methods such as prooving mental incompetence, or showing that the contract was entered and only agreed to due to duress but these things do not change the legality of the document in any normal conditions.
In terms of what is actually a legal contract your a little off and overgeneralizing. Because of differing state laws from state to state you will get some variance in how little it takes to be a contract but in any state if you sign (or internet equivalently click on the agree) to a agreement then it is a legal contract. You can even be heald legally liable for verbal contracts, assuming there is sufficient evidence that the verbal agreement occured to present in court. All of our contract law came out of the old common law of our nations past and many parts of common law are still in effect. One example being the states wherein if you maintain residence with a woman for a set number of years continuously you two become automatically married. At base level any agreement/transaction was a contract in common law.
Additionaly if you were familiar with EULA's or copyright laws you would know that merely clicking on I agree after being told to read the T&C is standard legaly binding contract practice for all US businesses. Most notably are the EULA's that ever software producer and entertainment media producer uses. All of these you merely click agree and are legally bound, and often prosecuted for breaking, to the included T&C. While they go after the downloaders(music, etc..) for simple theft they come after the download servers for breaking the EULA's, theft, and many other things depending on circumstances( tax evade, various computer activity laws, etc..). Some of these contracts in the newest wave of DRM implimented by Sony and 2 of the other large music/movie producers are legally binding even though you were unable to view the terms before purchasing the item. As soon as you use the CD/DVD/etc.. that you bought you have agreed to the EULA terms they have included as part of that item.
Bottom line is that contracts of the exact same nature as Burners are found legally binding and enforced every day here in the US. :grin:

If you have doubts or want further examples just look into user license contracts.

P.S. In order for an action/crime to "cross state lines" and thus meet one
the conditions that make something FBI jurisdiction something has
to be sent or done across state lines. Burners posting that info has
done neither thing. He did not send the information directly to any
individual (and therefore location) so he has not sent anything to any
location outside his state. Just like with the internet porn industry
The viewer going out looking (thereby crossing state lines) for
information or items is responsible for abiding by the relevant laws
of their state (and/or of interstate actions). ;p
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lol bodies aren't found in the desert ;p
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Damn, that was nice.
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evildr wrote:wtf Your information on internet legal issues may be correct, I do not know so can not say, but your information on legal contracts, common law(US), and EULA's is innaccurate. The straw man example you used of "if you do not follow my rules you have to kill yourselves" is blatanlty exagerated and incorrect. Burners T&C do not give you any sort of proactive orders of action if something should happen. They, just like all legal contracts/agreements, set up an agreement of conditions including among them conditions by which certain actions will be taken by Burners, not you, and by agreeing to the T&C you have assented to these conditions/actions.
Secondly International trade or law are not applicable in US matters :mackdaddy: , technically even if you hit another country with something, excepting where 2 conditions are met.
1) There is a treaty or US government agreement
(such as for extradition) where by the US gives
authority for a foreign body to collect/ take action on an
agreed liability.
2) The US government must actually decide to hold you
actountable to that treaty/agreement.
Furthermore the author of a contract/agreement does not have any bearing on the legality of the contract in the slightest excepting if the person is mentally incompetent and the said agreement pertains to the author. A contract is legal in the US so long as it does not violate any existing US or state(specific to the state it was entered into in) law regardless of who authored it. You could break contract by certain methods such as prooving mental incompetence, or showing that the contract was entered and only agreed to due to duress but these things do not change the legality of the document in any normal conditions.
In terms of what is actually a legal contract your a little off and overgeneralizing. Because of differing state laws from state to state you will get some variance in how little it takes to be a contract but in any state if you sign (or internet equivalently click on the agree) to a agreement then it is a legal contract. You can even be heald legally liable for verbal contracts, assuming there is sufficient evidence that the verbal agreement occured to present in court. All of our contract law came out of the old common law of our nations past and many parts of common law are still in effect. One example being the states wherein if you maintain residence with a woman for a set number of years continuously you two become automatically married. At base level any agreement/transaction was a contract in common law.
Additionaly if you were familiar with EULA's or copyright laws you would know that merely clicking on I agree after being told to read the T&C is standard legaly binding contract practice for all US businesses. Most notably are the EULA's that ever software producer and entertainment media producer uses. All of these you merely click agree and are legally bound, and often prosecuted for breaking, to the included T&C. While they go after the downloaders(music, etc..) for simple theft they come after the download servers for breaking the EULA's, theft, and many other things depending on circumstances( tax evade, various computer activity laws, etc..). Some of these contracts in the newest wave of DRM implimented by Sony and 2 of the other large music/movie producers are legally binding even though you were unable to view the terms before purchasing the item. As soon as you use the CD/DVD/etc.. that you bought you have agreed to the EULA terms they have included as part of that item.
Bottom line is that contracts of the exact same nature as Burners are found legally binding and enforced every day here in the US. :grin:

If you have doubts or want further examples just look into user license contracts.

P.S. In order for an action/crime to "cross state lines" and thus meet one
the conditions that make something FBI jurisdiction something has
to be sent or done across state lines. Burners posting that info has
done neither thing. He did not send the information directly to any
individual (and therefore location) so he has not sent anything to any
location outside his state. Just like with the internet porn industry
The viewer going out looking (thereby crossing state lines) for
information or items is responsible for abiding by the relevant laws
of their state (and/or of interstate actions). ;p
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